you cant judge characters by thier moves, i use ganondorf, and ask kirby, im a pretty good brawler, and im still getting use to his new moves, so you cant say whos who :mad: or atleast give ganondorf a better score since people who say he sucks just play the bot version of him, so if you ranking bots, sure but if not ganondorf is not a 3 :mad:

ALSO, you say he was your main on melee, me aswell, but there's no difference besides his up a attack his swing his leg ONCE, nothing new, but dude, ganondorf isnt a crappy character, if you were so good with him, you'd notice he is used for aerialists, his b <> attack sends them flying down if thier in-mid air b + V smashes them down and gives you another jump and recovery, and a V does a very strong attack, PLUS his A + > < attack doesnt send them up now, but far right or left, so no you havnt given me a good impression

if you're gonna rate them by what theyreally are, including sonic, SONIC is a team player, he weakens them down, and is great for distractions and such more, as stopping a grab attack, a strong charged attack, sonic is great, if you know how to use him

metaknight not havning a ranged? like that makes a difference, your not playing a stage that goes 100 m long, you're playing something like FD, which meta knights Down b attack works to disspear and come up from behind
and can easliy use his b attack so he wont be knocked back that much, and can quickly stop him, if there was a fight in something like... a big stage, all ranged attacks like foxes dont make you fall back, so wow, it takes you 5 seconds to get there and you can easily just dodge it cause you cant aim it, for pit, just R + Down it, it's super easy....

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

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